> Gmail always sends unauthenticated mails to spam folders...<br><br>Sometimes not. I was able to send it to Inbox a few days ago. Then it became Spam. Now the emails going to the Inbox, when I stopped sending them for a day. It is funny if I think about the logic the Spam filter of gmail uses.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/2/12 Fayaz useful <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fayaz.yusuf.khan@gmail.com">fayaz.yusuf.khan@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Gmail always sends unauthenticated mails to spam folders...<div class="Ih2E3d"><br clear="all">I just fell in love with my life...<br>
<br><br></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:56, Jos Collin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joscollin@gmail.com" target="_blank">joscollin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>> Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any specific reason ? >Just curious.<br><br></div>Its my freedom to use 'any program I like in the GNU distribution. As you know, this freedom is granted to me by the GNU/GPL. If I think, nothing prevents me from doing this. There is no IPC####, which says "You shall not use 'mail' or sendmail commands". There is no sentence in the Bible, which says "Thou shall not use mail and sendmail commands". :-) I know that you are curious, but this is the only reason.<br>
<br><div><div>> If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support
SMTP), it is pretty easy to > setup it in email client and send emails
through email clients.<br></div>I feel mail and sendmail commands are easier than that.<br><br><div><div>> If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something
similar to phpmailer which > use SMTP (authenticated) internally ?<br></div>I will try that later on.<br></div><br></div><div>> The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some
script - is not a good idea >(AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated,
emails you send may end up reaching the spam / bulk >folder.<br></div>I don't know whether the lack of SMTP authentication causes the problem. I will check if its possible to do that using mail or sendmail command.<br>
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Thanks,<br>Jos Collin<br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/2/11 Dinkar Mohana Pai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:din@dinkar.com" target="_blank">din@dinkar.com</a>></span><div><div></div><div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Hello<div><br></div><div>Wondering why you are not using an email client for sending emails. Any specific reason ? Just curious.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have gmail account (actually any email account that support SMTP), it is pretty easy to setup it in email client and send emails through email clients.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you prefer using scripts and commands, why not using something similar to phpmailer which use SMTP (authenticated) internally ?</div><div><br></div><div>The 'mail' command whether it is from the prompt or using some script - is not a good idea (AFAIK), and as it is not authenticated, emails you send may end up reaching the spam / bulk folder.</div>
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<div><div><div><div><div>Best Regards</div><div>Din.</div></div></div></div></div></div></span> </div><br><div><div><div></div><div><div>On 11-Feb-09, at 5:31 PM, Jos Collin wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div></div><div>I'm sorry to send this email to the community. The emails, which I have sent using the 'mail' command are going to the spam folder. I did'nt notice that before sending this email. Now I became an expert in mail and sendmail commands.<br>
<br>Let me explain my new problem to you. I can send and email from the command line to anybody I like. But if I keep on sending emails for more than a day, the Spam filter (in the server) filters it and moving it to the Spam folder. I want my emails to appear in the Inbox folder. So is there anything, which I can specify in my emails so that they can bypass the spam filter? Or is there any other method to bypass the Spam filter? For eg, If I send an email to a gmail address using 'mail' command, it should bypass the Spam filter and go to the Inbox instead of going to the Spam folder.<br>
<br>Please give your inputs.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jos Collin<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/2/11 Mahesh Aravind <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maravind84@yahoo.co.in" target="_blank">maravind84@yahoo.co.in</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Dear Jos,<br> <br> 1) Please put an more 'understandable' subject in the subject line. The word 'mail' is altogether vague.<br>
<br> 2) Using / Sending out your mail as 'root' is a BIG BAD NO. No matter how much a whiz you are, its bad. As in, B-A-D.<br> <br> Which distro do you use? (sorry, evident from the logs)<br> <br> What package does it support? (sorry, evident from the logs)<br>
<br> (But had to wait till this thread to understand it)<br> <br> Did you 'purge' the package or just 'remove' it? Because if you'd just 'remove'd it, the conf files would still be there, and it'd work perfectly if you install it back. Only 'purging' do take away the conf files too, with it..<br>
<br> I believe debian uses Exim4 instead of Sendmail by default as the MTA.<br> <br> Sorry, but were you connected to internet? (hey, I said sorry beforehand, ok?)<br> <div><br> --- On Fri, 6/2/09, Jos Collin <<a href="mailto:joscollin@gmail.com" target="_blank">joscollin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br> > pri=120443, relay=<a href="http://gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com" target="_blank">gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com</a>.<br> > [209.85.143.27], dsn=5.0.0,<br> > stat=Service unavailable<br> > Feb 6 13:16:55 debian sm-mta[3880]: n167kCGM003877:<br>
> n167ktGM003880: DSN:<br> > Service unavailable<br> <br> </div>I think google SMTP server _at least_ requires SSL authentication. Check your <a href="http://sendmail.cf" target="_blank">sendmail.cf</a> to see if it tries to authenticate at every instance.<br>
<br> Your actual username at google, for authentication, is "@<a href="http://googlemail.com" target="_blank">googlemail.com</a>" and not "@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>". Check for that.<br>
<br> To the best of my belief (correct me if I'm wrong), google doesn't do SMTP on port 25. Its either port 465 (with SSL) or port 587 (with TLS).<br> <br> More info here: <a href="http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=78775" target="_blank">http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=78775</a><br>
<br> Suggestion: Ditch Sendmail, use postfix (hey, its only a suggestion, don't bite me) ;-)<br> <br> Disclaimer: I'm no mail expert... YMMV!<br> <br> No worries,<br> Mahesh Aravind<br> <br> <br> Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. Grab now <a href="http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address" target="_blank">http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address</a><br>
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