I heard that college of engg kidangoor doesnt support FOSS much. They dont use/recommend linux. They dont allow students to do mini project in PHP saying that it is a very complex language.<br><br>college office contact: 04822 256056<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Sameer Mohamed Thahir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sameer.thahir@gmail.com">sameer.thahir@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Thursday 25 December 2008 06:19 PM, Gejo Paul wrote:<br>
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Dear All,<br>
<br>
I guess conduct the alternative monthly meetings on eng/MCA colleges will create a very good relation with students and community,<br>
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I do not think conducting monthly meetings of ILUG Cochin at different places is good,<br>
But there can be meetings, seminars or discussions otherwise.<br>
Lot of colleges have already invited ILUG Cochin for seminars<br>
and presentations.<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
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ILUG -Cochin chapter should work as a mentor for Eng/Graduate students.we have a lot of volunteers who are having experience/knowledge in this domain.<br>
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Yes its a good idea, but first we need to make students understand of<br>
the community framework, so that they can come forward rather than<br>
we push them.<br>
<br>
Besides a lot of volunteers in ILUG Cochin have mentored students<br>
from different parts of Ernakulam. But unfortunately we do not have<br>
any record or archive of the project/ assignment they have done.<br>
<br>
I think its very important to archive ideas and projects so that we<br>
have a pool of them which will be referenced by students.<br>
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<br>
Regards<br>
Gejo Paul<br>
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Thank You<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Sameer Mohamed Thahir<br>
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Sameer Mohamed Thahir <<a href="mailto:sameer.thahir@gmail.com" target="_blank">sameer.thahir@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sameer.thahir@gmail.com" target="_blank">sameer.thahir@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello All,<br>
<br>
I believe its the Free Software community that needs to be involved.<br>
<br>
We need free software groups in colleges and schools that can<br>
think independently, there should not be any restriction of an<br>
organization or a group.<br>
<br>
Freedom should exist, not just for name sake..<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank You<br>
Regards<br>
Sameer Mohamed Thahir<br>
<br>
<br>
On Monday 22 December 2008 01:30 PM, cherian mt wrote:<br>
<br>
as far as i know there are active chapters of csi in<br>
trivandrum and kochi.<br>
regarding student chapters some of the office bearers of these<br>
chapters will be able to provide details. we can also<br>
encourage them to form chapters.<br>
<br>
Region VII<br>
<br>
Ms. U. Mini<br>
<br>
Systems Manager,<br>
<br>
Cochin University of Science & Technology, Kochi – 682022. Kerala<br>
<br></div>
Email : mini_ u @ <a href="http://cusat.ac.in" target="_blank">cusat.ac.in</a> <<a href="http://cusat.ac.in" target="_blank">http://cusat.ac.in</a>>;<br>
<a href="mailto:iniu06@gmail.com" target="_blank">iniu06@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:iniu06@gmail.com" target="_blank">iniu06@gmail.com</a>> ;<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<a href="mailto:rsc7@csi-india.org" target="_blank">rsc7@csi-india.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rsc7@csi-india.org" target="_blank">rsc7@csi-india.org</a>><br></div>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:rsc7@csi-india.org" target="_blank">rsc7@csi-india.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rsc7@csi-india.org" target="_blank">rsc7@csi-india.org</a>>><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<br>
<br>
Mobile no. 098472 89382<br>
<br>
*National Student Coordinator:*<br>
<br>
* *<br>
<br>
Mr. Bipin V. Mehta<br>
<br>
Fellow, CSI and<br>
<br>
Director ,AES Institute of Computer Studies<br>
<br>
H.L. College Campus, PO Box; 4206,<br>
<br>
Navrangpura,<br>
<br>
Ahmedabad – 380 009.<br>
<br>
Tel.: 079-2646 7760, 26402987 Email: <a href="mailto:nsc@csi-india.org" target="_blank">nsc@csi-india.org</a><br></div>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:nsc@csi-india.org" target="_blank">nsc@csi-india.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nsc@csi-india.org" target="_blank">nsc@csi-india.org</a><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:nsc@csi-india.org" target="_blank">nsc@csi-india.org</a>>> ; <a href="mailto:bvmehta@aesics.ac.in" target="_blank">bvmehta@aesics.ac.in</a><br></div>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:bvmehta@aesics.ac.in" target="_blank">bvmehta@aesics.ac.in</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bvmehta@aesics.ac.in" target="_blank">bvmehta@aesics.ac.in</a><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:bvmehta@aesics.ac.in" target="_blank">bvmehta@aesics.ac.in</a>>><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
the issues regarding students is<br>
<br>
how many are genuinely interested in doing projects? may be<br>
25% in a class.<br>
<br>
knowledge of students in programming will be limited when<br>
they are in college only after they get out will they<br>
understand better ( this is the case with all courses) by the<br>
time the project time is over.<br>
<br>
the top priority of students is to score well in their exam. (<br>
cut off to get into a company)<br>
<br>
in any case if they get into a company the company trains them.<br>
<br>
regards<br>
cherian<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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destinations of a lifetime ...............National Geographic<br>
Traveller<br>
<br>
<br>
--- On *Mon, 12/22/08, .Kenney Jacob /<<a href="mailto:kenney.jacob@gmail.com" target="_blank">kenney.jacob@gmail.com</a><br></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
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<br>
<br>
From: .Kenney Jacob <<a href="mailto:kenney.jacob@gmail.com" target="_blank">kenney.jacob@gmail.com</a><br></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
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Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Academic Projects And PHP<br>
To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software"<br></div>
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Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 12:59 PM<br>
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I know a few people from CSI Trivandrum. But how many colleges<br>
have CSI presence. My college didnt have.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.kenneyjacob.com" target="_blank">http://www.kenneyjacob.com</a><br>
Kenney Jacob<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:55 PM, cherian mt<br></div>
<<a href="mailto:mtcherian@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mtcherian@yahoo.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mtcherian@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mtcherian@yahoo.com</a>><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:mtcherian@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mtcherian@yahoo.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
are any of ilug members members of computer society of<br>
india?<br>
csi has student chapters in a number of colleges and they<br>
are coordinators who are coordinating the activities<br>
of these<br>
chapters. good place to start off.<br>
regards<br>
cherian m t<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
<<a href="http://www.alappuzhaonline.com/" target="_blank">http://www.alappuzhaonline.com/</a>>*<br>
*<br>
*Alappuzha* - The most beautiful place in Kerala, also<br>
called the Venice of the East<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.keralatravelandtourism.in/" target="_blank">http://www.keralatravelandtourism.in/</a><br>
*Kerala*, state in India. One of the 50 must see<br>
destinations of a lifetime ...............National<br>
Geographic<br>
Traveller<br>
<br>
<br>
--- On *Sun, 12/21/08, .Kenney Jacob<br></div>
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<br>
<br>
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Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Academic Projects<br>
And PHP<br>
To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software"<br></div>
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Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 12:57 AM<br>
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Thats well said. Lets do the mailing part. That<br>
would be<br>
really great.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.kenneyjacob.com" target="_blank">http://www.kenneyjacob.com</a><br>
Kenney Jacob<br>
<br>
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Sameer Mohamed Thahir<br></div>
<<a href="mailto:sameer.thahir@gmail.com" target="_blank">sameer.thahir@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sameer.thahir@gmail.com" target="_blank">sameer.thahir@gmail.com</a>><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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<<a href="http://mc/compose?to=sameer.thahir@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=sameer.thahir@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello All,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Friday 19 December 2008 12:46 PM, .Kenney<br>
Jacob wrote:<br>
<br>
Every large scale change starts with awareness.<br>
<br>
I agree<br>
<br>
Students should be aware of their freedom to<br>
choose their own topics.<br>
<br>
It is not only about topics, freedom in a broader<br>
sense is being lost in academics on the whole,<br>
Of course, there needs to be a starting point<br>
which is<br>
this.<br>
<br>
If this issue gets noticed by the academic<br>
community, we can push for a circular from the<br>
university. For that to happen, this needs<br>
to be<br>
discussed throughout the community.<br>
<br>
What I feel can be done<br>
- Create a pool of project ideas ( there are a<br>
lot of<br>
Free Software Projects on the<br>
Internet at different stages of development, we<br>
need<br>
to create a sort of legend for<br>
students ,<br>
- Create a page on the Internet that will serve<br>
as a<br>
reference to teachers,<br>
so that they are convinced of the scope of the<br>
project<br>
and how it can do good<br>
to the student, college and most important the<br>
"Community".<br>
- Once projects are completed they are uploaded<br>
to the<br>
website and also<br>
are presented and spoken of at events and Community<br>
group meetings<br>
(like ILUG Cochin), and the project will<br>
develop wings.<br>
- This will serve as an example and lesson for the<br>
other students as well<br>
and then we have a whole lot of useful software<br>
created by the students<br>
for the community.<br>
<br>
- The Web page also needs information from the<br>
normal<br>
users and business<br>
people, so that they can put in their requirements<br>
into the page so that<br>
it becomes " a self sustaining community".<br>
<br>
- Finally let us begin upon, and reiterate on<br>
what is<br>
the aim of an<br>
academic project in our society and again " the<br>
free<br>
software community".<br>
Many times students do not know what path they<br>
need to<br>
take to create<br>
something useful for the society.<br>
<br>
We need to draft an open letter to all educational<br>
institutions<br>
which states what an academic projects means to the<br>
society and how<br>
important is the freedom for students to pursue<br>
their<br>
own interests and how<br>
they can guide them to the right path.<br>
<br>
There are lot of teachers and academicians in the<br>
Mailing List. I believe<br>
we can get lot of information from them. :)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank You<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Sameer Mohamed Thahir<br>
<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Jain M Johny<br>